Hey y'all! On this episode, we're joined by Intuitive Coach Sarah Itkin. Sarah combines her gifts as a psychic medium and angel channel, and training as a mental health therapist with a Master’s in Social Work, to provide psychic development programs, coaching, and holistic, integrated intuitive readings.
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[00:00:44] Thank you for joining us again on this episode of the Beyond I Do podcast. On today's episode,
[00:00:55] we have a guest, a very special guest, Ms. Sarah Itkin. She comes to us from Colorado.
[00:01:03] She is a psychic medium, an intuitive coach who also uses her mental health training
[00:01:12] to help others. Correct? That's right. I used to be a mental health therapist
[00:01:16] and I combine those abilities together to provide readings and coaching. Very good. So if you would,
[00:01:23] tell us a little bit about you and how you got to the place of realizing that you had the
[00:01:30] ability to help others using not only that background in mental health but also those
[00:01:37] spiritual gifts. Sure. So I, like you said, I'm a psychic medium. I also am an angel channel
[00:01:44] and I also teach intuitive development or people might understand better psychic development
[00:01:50] classes that I created to help people who are like kind of know there's something they have some
[00:01:55] abilities and there's more out there and they don't quite know what to do with it.
[00:01:58] So I have like these, I'd say I give readings, I do the ongoing coaching with people
[00:02:04] and then I do my courses and teach people all the way up to becoming professional intuitive
[00:02:10] coaches or readers themselves. So my story began a long time ago when I did not know that I was
[00:02:19] psychic at all. I had no concept or awareness of that and I knew that I wanted to help people.
[00:02:26] So my path was I went to the University of Washington, got my master's in social work
[00:02:30] and then I lived, grew up in upstate New York and I worked as a mental health therapist
[00:02:36] and I always felt like I was around a peg trying to fit into a square hole
[00:02:43] and something just felt like it was missing. And I also felt like I had a low self-esteem. I
[00:02:50] didn't really feel like I was doing that much good in the world. I also struggled with like
[00:02:56] anxiety and depression like in a very intense way. And when I was in my early 20s, I started to see
[00:03:02] these little sparks of light. And my first thought was that these are angels or they're celestial
[00:03:09] beings. And then my second thought was you're not special enough because my self-esteem was so low
[00:03:14] and I thought only holy people could see into the spiritual realm. And I was told that there
[00:03:21] was something wrong with my eyes and I just accepted that as like of course it's something
[00:03:26] like it's wrong with my eyes. And then I stopped seeing them for a really long time. But I went
[00:03:31] fast forward before that. I was in college and my best friend from high school, I had a dream
[00:03:38] that she passed away and it was very, very, very detailed. And I called her the next day because
[00:03:43] only I woke up I just felt like oh my god like she's gone. I called her next day to make sure
[00:03:48] that I could you know hear her voice. I even told her that I dreamt that she died
[00:03:54] and she ended up passing away a year and a half later. And everything in my dream,
[00:04:01] every detail came true. Wow. So that's when I realized I was psychic. And at the same time
[00:04:11] I was like well what do I do with that? Nothing. Why? What's the purpose of it?
[00:04:16] Because I didn't think that I could do anything else other than having random dreams.
[00:04:21] And so then you know moving on in my 20s I'm really seeking some spiritual support. I'm really
[00:04:27] struggling to see the angels. I'm told that there's something wrong with my eyes. And then I stopped
[00:04:33] seeing them. And then I became a therapist and I had a dream about one of my clients.
[00:04:41] And it was she was in a war but she didn't tell me what happened to her. So I had a dream
[00:04:48] that these like terrible atrocities were happening to me during my dream. And it was something that
[00:04:54] shouldn't I shouldn't dream about unless I experienced it myself. Like it would have been
[00:04:58] like a dream that somebody would have if they had PTSD. And so I ended up seeing my client
[00:05:04] a few days later and I was so disturbed by this dream. And she ended up telling me what
[00:05:10] happened to her when she was in this war. And then it was everything that happened to me
[00:05:14] in my dream. At that time I was in my early 30s and I recognized that there's something that needs
[00:05:21] to be done because I continued you know I had some more dreams about people dying and then they
[00:05:27] had that dream. And I knew that the universe was saying Sarah you've got to do something
[00:05:32] you've got to do something I just knew it was a call to take some action.
[00:05:36] Were you scared? No I actually wasn't scared and it was very very synchronistic because
[00:05:42] going back to rewinding again well a few years earlier a year prior my friend Rebecca who passed
[00:05:49] away her sister was working with a psychic teacher and I met her. And I was like oh I'd love to work
[00:05:56] with you but you know I don't why would I want to put the money I mean I didn't tell her you know
[00:06:01] I mean I didn't want to spend the money but I'm telling myself it's like you know why should
[00:06:05] I spend this money on this thing that would be just a hobby you know? Because their piss
[00:06:11] don't get paid very well when you're young. It is right. So anyway I after I had the dream I knew
[00:06:21] exactly who to call it was like it had been laid out for me so I called my teacher and then when I
[00:06:28] started working with her my gifts exploded so my psychic abilities I learned how to do on demand
[00:06:33] I learned how to channel angels I learned how to become a medium and then I had these
[00:06:39] amazing experiences with the angels so that I knew they gave me these incredible signs
[00:06:47] we call them angel signs and through those signs I knew that I could connect with them
[00:06:54] and I started to see those little sparks of light again and this I'll just give you the first
[00:07:00] like entryway sign that was like really amazing. I was taking notes on my computer
[00:07:04] and I was listening to the Pandora station and I was listening to the classical station
[00:07:10] and then I saw angels I saw those sparks of light again and this time I was like
[00:07:14] gotta be angels so I said if your angels play Paca Belcannon in the next song
[00:07:22] and so it did that song came on and but then I went back to doubting because it's like I was
[00:07:27] more comfortable doubting than I was not doubting. So I just said if you're really angels playing
[00:07:33] my favorite song on the radio on my way home so I'm driving home I realized that the radio's not on
[00:07:39] I turned it on and then in that moment it's um my favorite song but it's a special live version.
[00:07:46] So I just continued doubting myself and then the angels gave me more signs and then doubting
[00:07:51] and then believing the doubting belief. There weren't a lot of people like me then.
[00:07:56] Right. So eventually I decided that this is my path to being just a therapist wasn't
[00:08:05] fulfilling enough and I wasn't able it would have been against it would be I would consider
[00:08:10] unethical to use my abilities blatantly during therapy sessions. I made it my goal to pursue
[00:08:18] a work as I call now an intuitive coach and it's something that I never would have thought
[00:08:24] whatever ever happened to me. I was supposed to be normal. That's what I was gonna say like
[00:08:33] hearing you say it and doubting yourself especially not having others around did you
[00:08:41] did it make you feel like weird or but then again I mean once we get past a certain age
[00:08:48] I don't know some of those things are not. But I would thank you to still feel somewhat
[00:08:53] isolated. Oh yeah it's not like you can just anybody. Right. Yeah no it's true and I call it
[00:09:00] like a coming forward process. It's like I had to take that leap of faith and not even take
[00:09:07] a leap of faith just like bite my nails and say I'm psychic like this is what I'm doing
[00:09:12] and my family at first had a hard time like not everybody in my family but they were like
[00:09:18] what the heck you know what I mean. A lot of my cousin said we were concerned about you but
[00:09:25] now we understand and I think that might have been some reactions to a lot of people that were close
[00:09:32] to me and then they eventually ended up getting readings from me and now you know they totally
[00:09:38] accept it but it is a little bit like depending on where I am it's not doesn't always feel
[00:09:44] emotionally safe to tell people what I do but of course I moved to Boulder Colorado so you know
[00:09:50] like in Boulder it's a kind of a hub for you know spiritual and even if you're don't believe in it
[00:09:56] you're not going to be freaked out if someone says that they're a psychic medium. All right
[00:10:01] I'm sure that our family you know you probably would the weird cousin like she's weird but then
[00:10:08] yeah yeah I'm the I'm the weird I'm the I'm the woo girl although
[00:10:13] you're definitely like well that's what that's what it was.
[00:10:19] Yeah I mean yeah I think everybody has some two other people in their family and
[00:10:24] right people just don't realize it. Some of the comments that I've had family members say
[00:10:31] I'm thinking like when we many many moons ago when we started dating and when I got pregnant
[00:10:41] my grandmother started calling him dad before the term that I was pregnant.
[00:10:48] I was gonna say I was feeling like your grandmother was psychic but I didn't say any I mean of
[00:10:51] course I didn't say anything that's so cool. So that type of thing like I think that things like that
[00:11:01] happened but we kind of gloss over it because well because society tells us that only person
[00:11:11] will do that or religion tells us that you know so and it's funny because within religion there
[00:11:19] are people who prophesy or things like that so you just call it a different name but I'm sure
[00:11:28] it's a freeing feeling to be able to operate within your gift especially when you are helping others
[00:11:37] with that gift. Yes it is so wonderful because I feel like I'm living my true purpose in life.
[00:11:43] I feel like I'm fulfilling my destiny and what I came to this earth to do and but I also feel like
[00:11:51] one big message is that everybody's intuitive. I just taught a course the other day and I'm like
[00:11:57] raise your hand if you ever thought of a friend and they called you. Everybody raises their hand.
[00:12:02] Raise your hand if you ever had a deja vu moment. Raise your hand if you ever thought of a song
[00:12:07] that came on the radio like those things happen to you I bet. It's happened to everybody.
[00:12:14] And so that just is proof right there that everybody is psychic. Everybody has the ability
[00:12:19] and that is the reason why again when I decided to teach my course it's so many people like I can
[00:12:25] see especially before COVID I had this vision that a big event was going to happen and then
[00:12:32] people were going to suddenly wake up to their spiritual gifts and that's what's happening
[00:12:38] and I didn't know it was COVID that was going to happen but that's what happened
[00:12:42] and I want to help people go hey you know there's nothing wrong with you. Here is how we're going
[00:12:47] to help you fully access your highest potential so you don't have to be a psychic reader like me
[00:12:54] you don't have to be a medium for a profession or you could do it for yourself. It's a wonderful
[00:12:59] feeling to be able to connect to your angels your spirit guides your deceased love on spirit
[00:13:05] and to know you're not crazy. This is a gift that you came here to experience and I understand
[00:13:13] that it can be scary for a lot of people. So and I mean you kind of just spoke on it but
[00:13:19] is in terms of you personally like being once you accepted and you started to operate within
[00:13:27] within those gifts what kind of changes happened with you on like on a personal level?
[00:13:34] Oh that's such a good question I ended up feeling a lot mental health wise because
[00:13:40] that feeling of being a square peg fitting into a round hole I gotta write this down
[00:13:47] it's still there but at that time I was like I do not belong you know to anybody and I don't
[00:13:53] know why and with you know being able to connect to angels for example when you're alone and you're
[00:14:00] depressed which I often was really struggle with anxiety and depression I felt less alone you
[00:14:08] know like oh well I can connect to this I can connect to these beings that fully you know they
[00:14:14] love me and I'm receiving comfort and I don't have to call other people to receive this
[00:14:19] comfort I'm getting it directly from a pure source and so that really helped I also helped me feel
[00:14:26] confident and it felt I was finally like doing something that I felt like I was good at and I think
[00:14:34] you know that that just helped me yeah I got it helped me my self-esteem shoot up it also helped
[00:14:39] me figure certain things out about myself like this is why when I was a therapist I didn't
[00:14:46] feel like I would feel like I was fully alive even though you know I wanted to help people
[00:14:50] but you know this is why I always felt so different this is why I used to daydream it's not because
[00:14:57] I'm dumb it's because you know and intuitive is often daydreams so you find children you know
[00:15:02] who are intuitive like in school they're not paying attention I used to get in trouble for
[00:15:06] not following directions I still get in trouble sometimes for that but it helped me you know when
[00:15:15] you find what you're good at it just helps and I and I had this idea in school I bet you know a lot
[00:15:21] of those kids that don't fit the mold I just wonder if if they knew that they were intuitive and
[00:15:28] that they that's a career you know what I mean the career option if a lot of kids if I wonder
[00:15:32] if they knew that that was an option that that could give them you know self-esteem to help them
[00:15:36] understand why they don't fit you know what I mean all right yeah I'm sure it's yeah adults who need to
[00:15:43] know that and who need to um feel comfortable in their skin and accept those gifts and operate
[00:15:51] within them exactly so many adults say that they've had scary experiences or they see the
[00:15:57] same thing I have this I don't know I don't know what a lot of adults and children struggle because
[00:16:02] they're empaths with it which is a way of being intuitive and when you don't know how to you
[00:16:08] know you're that an empath is when you're picking up on information about like how people are feeling
[00:16:12] usually and you'll feel heavy if someone's feeling heavy and you don't know why and really
[00:16:17] an important part of developing your gift and realizing your gift is also learning that oh
[00:16:22] okay I need to do these certain techniques like I need to ground myself and that helps decrease
[00:16:27] anxiety too feeling in your body and I need protect to protect myself from other energies
[00:16:33] not that there's bad you know things all over the place but just other people you know your your
[00:16:38] mom you know you love your mom but she's in a bad mood and suddenly you're in a bad mood
[00:16:41] right you know what I mean because you're absorbing her emotions and I I'm an empath but
[00:16:49] I struggled with childhood trauma I blocked processing emotions for myself many years and so for me
[00:17:02] I could turn off absorbing others energy because I was so good at suppressing my own emotion
[00:17:11] so do you find that the clients that you work with that sometimes they have to deal with
[00:17:19] either childhood trauma or deal with their own mental health issues to be able to fully operate
[00:17:26] within those gifts I feel like so many people have had traumatic childhoods or experiences and
[00:17:34] so for some like one of my clients felt like she was connecting with bad spirits and I think that
[00:17:40] and that was really scary for her and she just wanted nothing to do with it
[00:17:44] I think that the lens of trauma made her feel like her intuition wasn't safe
[00:17:50] but oftentimes traumatized people are incredibly intuitive because they need to know when the
[00:17:56] next dangerous thing was going to happen and so they you know like hyper vigilant children
[00:18:00] they would just and I'm sure that you know you you did that too like we're just trying to
[00:18:05] check in looking to see how you know our caregivers are how they're going to behave
[00:18:10] or whoever is in power in our lives so intuition develops naturally then I don't think that you
[00:18:16] need to deal with their trauma in order to harness it I don't think you need to be fully healed because
[00:18:21] we're always healing but of course with anybody who's severe trauma you know trauma therapies
[00:18:26] and all those things are very very important but I also feel like doing this work doesn't
[00:18:31] replace therapy or trauma treatment but being able to recognize your intuition talk to the angels
[00:18:39] you know get intuitive coaching that sort of thing by you stepping into your higher power that
[00:18:44] helps you heal your trauma because trauma is all about feeling a lack of control it's about feeling
[00:18:50] like and recovering from someone else doing something to you or an experience that was
[00:18:55] you know really scary and so when you are able to access your highest potential by accessing
[00:19:02] your intuitive gifts your intuition can also be a protective mechanism of course it is to
[00:19:06] help you feel safe in life but also like I said you know just feeling like the angels were listening
[00:19:11] to me or spirit guides or deceased love ones are there to help protect you I feel like that can
[00:19:16] bring a lot of healing to a traumatized person right the biggest thing is for people to recognize
[00:19:22] it's very scary diving into the unknown and if you especially if you have religious trauma
[00:19:27] you're brought up to believe only religious clergy can connect to Jesus or whatever higher power
[00:19:34] to God or like you said there are prophets only the prophets can do only prophets are allowed to be
[00:19:40] psychic but if you come from that orientation then that's scary so it's just about having a guide in
[00:19:46] terms of like how to make sense of it how to make it if you are having scary experiences you can set
[00:19:52] an intention for it to be only positive like that's what happened to me as soon as I told my
[00:19:56] teacher about my scary experiences I just she said well she'll set the intention for you not
[00:20:01] to have it and then I connected to my angels and it was positive and of course that's good that's
[00:20:06] different for everybody depending it's the type of trauma you know experience you don't even have
[00:20:10] to feel safe but I also feel like in a lot of trauma therapy it's really important to help the
[00:20:16] client feel resourced and so for example in the amdr it's a very effective treatment for
[00:20:23] trauma I highly recommend it they'll help you feel resourced which is just basically
[00:20:28] helping you feel safe and grounded before you're about to delve in and and tap into some traumatic
[00:20:33] memories so you go into like the safe and happy place you know and with what the work that I've
[00:20:39] been doing I noticed like it can be the same thing where we go on these guided journeys
[00:20:45] into the angelic realm or the realm are all you know the loving spirits are
[00:20:50] and create our own safe and happy happy place so that my clients feel resourced they feel
[00:20:56] safe they see that it's safe and then they're able to go deeper right right but it's always about
[00:21:02] having that sacred and safe container to learn this stuff right so far listeners who may not know
[00:21:08] what is EMDR it's okay let me see if I remember right it's eye movement rapid descents yeah
[00:21:17] realization it's I know exactly what it is yeah it's basically I I should know I shouldn't really
[00:21:25] know that but what happens is like they discovered the woman who created it I don't remember her name
[00:21:33] to discover that you can heal trauma not necessarily by talking about everything
[00:21:37] but by using your brain and by making bilateral movements so looking here looking there looking
[00:21:43] here that and there you can go into your subconscious mind and share they would process one memory at a
[00:21:50] time so you don't have to go in until your whole traumatic story and all the things that happen
[00:21:54] to you because that's very very traumatic in itself you get grounded and resourced and then
[00:22:00] you do this movement and then and then somehow the brain heals while you're you're talking
[00:22:07] and therapist guides you and so it can help clear out a specific memory and then you go
[00:22:13] on to another one and another one but correct me if I'm wrong that's just of my knowledge of it
[00:22:20] one thing that you said I don't want to forget it but you you mentioned children who were
[00:22:27] you know in abusive or you know chaotic environments learning how to you know I learned
[00:22:34] very early how to read a room and you made reference to that as being intuitive and connected
[00:22:42] to that intuition and so I think that is important to point out that some of those things that
[00:22:49] that we looked at even though they were developed in a place of harm or in an unhealthy situation
[00:22:57] and how those things can be used in a positive way I can read a room I can I feel energy but I
[00:23:05] guess I never thought of it's not I'm not used to thinking of that as a positive thing because
[00:23:11] of exactly of that ability why you learned it right and I and I think that ties into the
[00:23:18] shame and all of those things there's so many reasons why people kind of shy away from
[00:23:26] psychic abilities and things and that's one of you don't see those things for what they are unless
[00:23:32] somebody points it out for you yeah and I think one thing to remember is that it's yours you have
[00:23:38] control over how you show up in the world and if you want to keep it to yourself until you feel
[00:23:44] safe enough to share with another with like one person then that's okay you can also find
[00:23:49] communities online you know on facebook but yeah I mean especially if for example if you're traumatized
[00:23:56] because you do something and that thing is different you know that's one a lot of people are just afraid
[00:24:01] of being different and whether they endure trauma or not for some reason our society has
[00:24:06] programmed it and to our egos and through a little is that you must be like everybody else and
[00:24:13] and then we have you know dominant white culture share this is how you're supposed to be
[00:24:17] to you know in our country and with science is which I 100 believe in science but you know we value
[00:24:25] the rational thought we value what's real here and now that we can touch and prove right and
[00:24:31] understanding that not everything can be proven really understanding that you're not alone and
[00:24:36] you're not weird and I feel like oh I wish I could just you know for the people who I can't
[00:24:42] tell you just to stop but if you were raised to think that you're going to go to hell you
[00:24:46] know what I mean because you're into it you know because you're tapping into something that
[00:24:51] are angels but it could be the devil you know what I mean according to your religious life
[00:24:55] please know that that you're safe and and you're not alone and I know that you have to wrestle
[00:25:01] with those paradigms right yes but understanding that there are more and more of us coming out
[00:25:08] coming forward I don't want to you know go after the term coming out but coming forward
[00:25:12] yeah coming forward and so there are a lot of people who have those types of fears out there
[00:25:19] and it's just about finding community and the safe person to talk to since we have been
[00:25:25] meeting new people from these different spaces to interview for the podcast several of the
[00:25:33] individuals who we've spoken to who are outside the realm of normality they talk about this
[00:25:41] peace and this happiness with fulfilling their purpose and in those gifts so just the idea of
[00:25:51] okay even though society is telling us this even though tradition is telling us this just imagine
[00:25:57] how good it would feel to break away from those things and do what it is that your spirit is
[00:26:03] telling you needs to be done exactly I might have said that for me that was a beautiful way
[00:26:14] no it's that's that's so true it's almost like even if that thing is found upon by
[00:26:21] I mean you know I'm not going to go to I don't okay Texas whatever you know I'll just get you
[00:26:27] Texas is an example I might be afraid in Texas to be like this is who I am right I might choose not
[00:26:33] to share yeah right with anybody we're in the bible belt and the Bible belt I would definitely
[00:26:40] keep my mouth shut right you know I would personally would be too scared and there's a reason for it
[00:26:45] sometimes but I would but but knowing that I'm on purpose knowing that there is community for me
[00:26:54] elsewhere and there are safer places for me elsewhere as which is a privilege right is what keeps me going
[00:27:03] well that's with the podcast like the first year it was us and we talked about our journey
[00:27:12] and that's frowned upon a lot you keep your business yourself you don't tell me right you know
[00:27:19] and and there were some details that we shared about our relationship and some rocky points in
[00:27:25] our relationship and people oh you don't tell you know so and like I said once you you know
[00:27:32] break away from all those things and start to do what it is that you are telling you feels good
[00:27:38] exactly um it's a it's a good feeling and and we're enjoying it and hoping that as we meet
[00:27:45] individuals like you and learn you know things that we're being exposed to new things and so we're
[00:27:52] just enjoying the the personal growth and sharing that with our listeners and so we appreciate
[00:28:01] well all of us who get to be on your podcast are so lucky thank you thank you we are still
[00:28:10] blown away by um you know I put things out there to try and get guests I told him I said you know
[00:28:16] let's let's branch out let's bring people in so that you know we work on the individual to be
[00:28:23] a better partner and so as we're getting people as we're meeting you all like they're really
[00:28:28] going to record with us yeah oh yeah okay it's just us um but okay so well you guys have a
[00:28:39] beautiful sweet rare energy yeah rarely call it but okay one thing that you know some of the
[00:28:52] politicians and the political analysts keep thinking of woke culture yeah you know it's like well
[00:29:01] during the pandemic a lot of people woke up it is true let me outside of the norm right as far as
[00:29:08] uh their uh teachings their their work styles and things like that so people have broken away from
[00:29:15] the norm and it's like no no no no we need to put everybody back to sleep so we're gonna get rid of
[00:29:20] information and we're going to block these things and you know once you wake up it's hard to go
[00:29:28] back to yeah it's like especially when you find and learn things that yeah it feels good to learn
[00:29:38] because it feels free and it helped right free it you know you don't have to hide things like i'm
[00:29:46] i'm sure for you once you realized okay this is it and you made the decision that you're gonna
[00:29:53] you know operate within that gift that's that's like weight lifted it is it is also hard sometimes
[00:30:01] yes it is um sometimes yet you know i feel like a lone wolf and that's hard you know but the
[00:30:08] benefits outweigh that right um but but sometimes you know being different and doing something
[00:30:14] different and going away from the norms it's just like sometimes it's just why couldn't i just be
[00:30:21] a therapist and i've uh you know do the thing where you have the kids and you get married and you
[00:30:26] have the car and driveway and the house you know why why you don't even mean like i'm definitely
[00:30:31] been um upset about that sometimes it can just be normal but yeah because it's normal
[00:30:38] thing it's normal right it's just you're normal yeah but yeah you're but you're right like people
[00:30:43] are waking up and um it's shaking it's shaking up the world it's shaking things up but
[00:30:51] we aren't learning or hearing about a lot of the positives right the positives of waking up
[00:30:57] we're hearing about the people who are asleep right all the people who are asleep are the ones
[00:31:03] that are making the news right um that's what's been refreshing about this yeah it's because
[00:31:11] we're not um like i said we're meeting people who are you know giving us information and exposing
[00:31:18] us to these new things and new way of thinking and seeing things and that has been refreshing yes it is
[00:31:27] yeah and i'm i'm feel really grateful to be a part of that thank you now what i want to know
[00:31:34] oh god uh oh sorry i don't know i'm gonna hold my breath as far as your gifts and i bet you
[00:31:44] you could know person that you were in a relationship with
[00:31:50] anything past you i bet you just like all right but how was how was dating for you like was it
[00:31:59] uh uh uh struggle was it you know how was that for you i would say is that
[00:32:06] that's sorry unfortunately i'm still in the dating it's hard um i do wonder sometimes
[00:32:14] when i date usually people are not looking for i guess it doesn't matter what people are looking
[00:32:21] for but when i feel insecure and the thought that comes to my mind is when people are dating
[00:32:26] especially i'm 44 and so people you know at this point of life you're not your settled and
[00:32:32] what my insecurities tell me is that nobody's thinking about wanting to date someone um who you
[00:32:39] know has their who's self a self-employed psychic medium slash angel channel
[00:32:44] i don't think and so i sometimes when i'm insecure i do care about what people think
[00:32:49] and you know on a date i may worry a little bit about what they think about me and it makes me
[00:32:56] feel a little insecure that i'm not a lawyer or a doctor or something like that and i do when
[00:33:06] i feel close to someone it is true that i pick up on psychic information about them whereas
[00:33:12] opposed to people who i don't feel close to i can turn it on and off um i definitely feel more
[00:33:19] of the empathic vibe so even it's just like my regular family members i'll ask like i'll ask
[00:33:24] like for example my brother i'll be like did you do this and i'll he'll he hadn't he didn't do the thing
[00:33:30] and i'll already know i'm like why do i bother asking i know the answer to this question so i don't
[00:33:37] try when i go you know going back to dating it's like when i i don't try to read people and some
[00:33:43] dates have actually asked me to give them readings on the spot and i don't like that right
[00:33:48] absolutely not yeah schedule on the point though with me right like i can see how that would be an
[00:33:55] immediate man no thank you yeah it yeah that almost feels like like making like mocking or
[00:34:05] hope you're fun uh yeah or just just feeling disrespected a little bit but um so i also feel
[00:34:12] like i have to tell people that i'm not reading them because it's like when you're on a date and
[00:34:18] first person i don't want i don't want that person to think that i'm like looking into their entire
[00:34:22] life right invading their privacy so i do feel like i sometimes i need to say that
[00:34:29] so you don't get the step like when you're standing to its eyes
[00:34:35] i'm sorry
[00:34:36] it is hard it is hard when you know and you feel that closeness with someone to not be flooded
[00:34:45] sometimes with just random bits of information that are you know sweet um or like getting a
[00:34:51] sense of who that person is in a deep way you know and it's i'm sure especially if it's not good
[00:34:59] stuff um yeah it would almost make it easier but if it's not good stuff then no thank you well
[00:35:08] it's interesting well oh go ahead because like you know you said that like we just assumed because
[00:35:15] of you know television we see things on movies like it just stuff just appears out of nowhere
[00:35:22] to people and to have these visions and all of a sudden yeah right attack but when you say you
[00:35:28] can control the energy you control it now that makes it more understanding you know yeah and that's
[00:35:35] how i think that's how i help people feel more calm like when i teach it's like i will teach you how to
[00:35:40] control it but yeah so when you're really close to someone it's it's different the boundaries are
[00:35:47] different but you know when it comes to dating another thing that makes it hard is that i'll
[00:35:51] only see someone's positive side because i don't choose to see any negativity i block
[00:35:58] so i'm not going to see all their their stuff and and some and i've been very
[00:36:02] unpleasantly surprised unfortunately oh my gosh so you know but now we need to be on another mission
[00:36:12] yeah yeah we got to find sarah someone we had a yeah we had actually many young ladies she
[00:36:20] has these rules for dating so we may have to contact her and see get this from her and get it to you so
[00:36:31] oh yeah that would be very helpful i'll take all the help i can get like i and see i was thinking
[00:36:37] more hands-on no i mean like let's go through a catalog of i mean i'll do like i said i'll take
[00:36:45] all the help i can get you know i i have we have family members and friends who are great great women
[00:36:55] and i'm wish i could hook them up but some of these tokens i'd be like
[00:37:02] yeah i can't introduce you to nobody it's hard i mean i think it's hard actually i like i i
[00:37:11] totally hear what you're saying and i think that when also you're on a spiritual journey
[00:37:17] walking through life on a deeper level right um you start to feel like it's harder to relate to
[00:37:27] people who aren't walking that path right and then that narrows down the dating pool right for us
[00:37:35] women it's not as easy the dating pool not that big to begin with the diesel fuel feels like however
[00:37:42] i know that we have conversations with single-edit men and i'll sit up there like man
[00:37:48] i mean you you actually thought that may sense look told me probably about a year ago
[00:37:55] we were i don't know on facebook or something and it said something like somebody said would you
[00:38:02] um if something were to happen to your marriage would you get married again
[00:38:07] and people were like no i can't i'm not dealing with people and blah blah blah and i asked him and he
[00:38:13] said i don't want to have to date anybody else um you have to learn about people and
[00:38:20] do you see how people are and my feelings were hurt because i felt like he should have said
[00:38:25] no i don't want to date anyone else because i have you because you're a goddess right i love you and
[00:38:32] and so my feelings were hurt and then about a year later um in fact it wasn't too long ago
[00:38:38] i was like you know what i get it um you're right because the the dating pool is very shallow
[00:38:46] and that's the same splint story but you know just thinking about getting back out there it's like
[00:38:53] and like when when uh they had a list of uh places not to go on a date and it was i'm sure it was
[00:39:03] mocked up but you know they were like can't go to chilies can't go to cheesecake no ice cream day
[00:39:08] no ice cream are you serious right you're meeting people what do you expect so what's in the park
[00:39:17] well you know i just like to tell myself that when the timing is right it's all about there i do believe
[00:39:26] if you want love there's somebody for everybody and there's somebody out there for me or even
[00:39:31] more than one somebody's you know i think we all have more than one person out there but it's
[00:39:35] about a lot of things it's about divine timing you know having being at the right time for
[00:39:39] yourself in your soul in order for something to work out and just being open to receiving
[00:39:45] love right and being open to healing yourself so that you receive the type of love that you really
[00:39:53] want and you two met each other and you have a very long marriage you know i'm very happy
[00:40:00] look you two look very happy together and um so you know you have a secret that you could share
[00:40:06] your person is out there and you you see him all the time you just had your frequencies happened
[00:40:16] adjusted to each other yet but it's that's what i believe that's what i believe look at your yeah
[00:40:26] that's that's our secret yeah that's our secret we were friends and it was it was a
[00:40:34] very platonic in fact we when we were teenagers we tried to date and then he messed it up
[00:40:42] i was trying to be a player so to speak yeah he messed it up i did the dumbest stuff
[00:40:49] just dumb um i want to hear the stories so one of them we and you know what our our parents
[00:41:01] probably would have they would have had a fit if they knew we were doing this we were we switched cars
[00:41:09] and um i'm driving his car and i'm driving and i pulled the sun visor down and a picture falls
[00:41:17] to my lap and it was a picture of another girl and just so happened i went to school with the
[00:41:25] girl we didn't go to the same school i went to school with the girl and i didn't like the girl
[00:41:32] he told me one day we uh we met up and he's like look anybody tells you they saw me in the mall with
[00:41:40] a girl it was my niece dumb you just pretell on yourself oh my god that's really funny you were
[00:41:51] kids not handy right we were kids that's not in him and yeah the way that we met was i actually
[00:41:59] i actually liked his friend yeah and so it's i i had the biggest crush on his friend
[00:42:07] and the first time we met he his friend came over to my house with him and i don't even remember
[00:42:14] meeting him i did see me because i liked his friend um and then she came over to my house
[00:42:22] with another friend yeah i ended up dating another friend of his that's when we formally met each other
[00:42:30] yeah and then that didn't work out you know and then uh we and we moved to each other the local
[00:42:36] team hang out and uh it's like hey i know you and we he did he sing and he did stuff we were at one
[00:42:46] of the uh army base here the little youth club would have dances or parties and we were there
[00:42:53] and so we're standing outside when it's over and he's hugging me and he's singing in my ear i thought
[00:43:01] it was in my and i happened to turn and there's a girl that he's looking at while he's singing
[00:43:09] he just it's it's a wonder that i even gave you a chance after all that um
[00:43:17] i was young and stupid i don't know he wasn't ready i think i was trying to be a player i was just
[00:43:22] trying to do with my friend you were right you were trying yeah exactly it wasn't naturally me
[00:43:29] it wasn't not at all not at all i know yeah oh but we uh then he's he started dating a girl
[00:43:45] about two years um yeah and that was not good and the more that we talk about it now i'm like you
[00:43:52] do realize that she was abusive towards you like she was she was horrible a mentally abusive
[00:44:00] definitely but we remained friends and so i went off to school and i would come home
[00:44:07] and um i'd call him and say i'm home do you want to hang out and we'd hang out and whatnot and
[00:44:14] i thought because she and i had met he had introduced us as i'm his friend and i thought she was aware of
[00:44:24] me coming home and me and him would hang out because we were friends right and i found out the wrong
[00:44:30] hard way that that's not the case you don't do it you don't do it but he's that crazy thing
[00:44:35] yeah she was um but you know her after they broke up i ended up moving home and
[00:44:45] we we got together we were inseparable after hanging out yeah that was so sweet
[00:44:53] yeah and from now from the time that we were friends though my mom would call him son that's
[00:44:59] her son throughout the years she would get on to me about um corrupting her son
[00:45:08] when that when i got pregnant when i told her i was pregnant um she stopped speaking to me
[00:45:14] she told him but i had further corrupted her son and i'm like you know i didn't do that by myself
[00:45:23] uh i don't i don't know why you're upset with me and not him um but she i mean for the first
[00:45:32] what month or so after i told her she she had a legitimate attitudes with me
[00:45:40] i'm more than you were when you had me though didn't make it i had corrupted her son
[00:45:47] um but we we made it and i think one of the things that um one of the reasons that we are as close as
[00:45:55] we are is because we're friends um when we when we say we're best friend like we mean it like we
[00:46:04] we're friends we hang out uh we have some of the same interest and even the things that we're
[00:46:11] we don't share interest in we have a mutual respect for each other and we just want to speak
[00:46:17] so if that means that um we stop by the yarn store for me and the hardware store for him
[00:46:24] then we do that because we spend time doing it so yeah that's really really inspiring thank you
[00:46:30] and we definitely believe in like over love yeah um love love is great but you know you know
[00:46:39] you have some family members you love but you don't actually like to be around them all the time
[00:46:44] right you have to like the person you're in a relationship with in order to you know take their
[00:46:51] bs or if they're you know wow right that's so true it's like you know oh i can't spend you but i
[00:46:59] like it that's that's a really true i'm learning so much from you well thank you
[00:47:08] that's what it's all about yeah so miss sara uh we would like to thank you for joining us
[00:47:16] on this evening uh sharing with us your gift and your knowledge and your wisdom
[00:47:24] uh for those of our listeners who would like to contact you get some information from you how can
[00:47:30] you be reached well you can go to my website which i hope you guys will post because it's hard
[00:47:36] to spell my last name okay you're gonna post it um feel please feel free to email me um you
[00:47:42] can call me my information is on my website and i also have a facebook group called intuitive
[00:47:50] connections by sarah itkin and i have a post a lot of free content there i also have instagram
[00:47:58] which i need to work on it's not it's not very developed but it's sarah itkin intuitive
[00:48:06] and if you want to learn more about my programs what i have to offer i do give readings like psychic
[00:48:13] readings um and then i also have my intuitive development course which is coming out may 7
[00:48:21] it's every going to be every tuesday at 5 30 mountaintime so that's 7 30 eastern standard time
[00:48:28] for 10 weeks or eastern daylight time and i also work with people individually with my packages
[00:48:34] doing intuitive coaching and also professional training so all of that is on my website um
[00:48:41] you can email me if you would like a reading and you mentioned this podcast and get 25 dollars off
[00:48:47] an hour reading all right oh we've got oh my god we've got spots right that's that's the first time
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