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[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Today, our special guest is Miss Monique Caradine Kitchens.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Did I get it right?
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That's me.
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[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And this Monique comes to us from overflow enterprises LLC where she helps women work through
[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: money, mindset issues to transform and have money breakthroughs.
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So we would like to welcome you.
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I cut your introduction a little bit short.
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to let you tell us about you and then I will interject in between because we have an impressive
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[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to let you tell us a little bit about yourself and then I interject when you're not
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[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thank you so much.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so glad to be here with you all.
[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I am a long time hard worker, probably much like both of you.
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I've worked at jobs since I was 14 years old.
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and when you think about all that time, I won't say exactly how I am, but I'm all
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: of enough to know that if I do the math, having worked since 14, if I would have done
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_02]: it right by my money, I should have lost my millionaire by now.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: That is not the case yet.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And so what I realized along my journey, you know, I worked at radio and TV and from Chicago.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So people from Chicago recognized me from WVOM and other places and whatnot.
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And even though I had a high visibility job, I, you know, got a lot of accolades and
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I had a lot of street credit, but my bank account did not match up with all that.
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You feel me so right.
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm right.
[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And so as I began to realize that I was not earning what I felt I was worthy of for the job that I did.
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Not only was I on air personality, but I also was a booker, a producer, a writer, this.
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So that, you know, I did the job of probably five or six people like many people in your audience.
[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably do.
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And I realized that I just wasn't getting paid what I felt I was worthy of.
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And so when I began to recognize that disconnect, I began to really research money because
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: at first I was like, well, maybe it's because I'm not working at the right station or maybe it's because
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the right people or I just don't know how to ask for a raise.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: What I realized it hadn't nothing to do with those external things.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It was all about my mindset.
[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Or when I recognized it wasn't about this or that, it was about what's the story I'm telling
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: myself up here about money then I began to do research and I began to talk to women who were
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: million there.
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just to kind of see how they think, how they behave, what habits.
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So fast forward.
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I did go to the place where I worked at that time and asked for a raise and they told me there was no money.
[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So what did I do?
[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I started to side hustle started making me some cash and then eventually left that job.
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And I've been on this pursuit ever since to really understand how does money work, how does
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: one really make money with ease, especially if we're black women.
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's right.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Howling's there.
[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So I've been on this money journey ever since.
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I became a certified money breakthrough coach and now I coach and train women on this very
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: same topic.
[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you obviously you read my book so you didn't written a book about it.
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you go, I was about to say.
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You did.
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to look about it.
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It's called How to Embrace your inner millionaire and it's all about mindset because
[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: it's never about the external things.
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It's right about what is the story that you're telling yourself.
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's been my work for the past.
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow 15 years now.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's been an honor and again, it's an ongoing journey to get to this place where we can really live in the overflow.
[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that you just mentioned and this is an area that I work in.
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: In many areas of my life, you mentioned the word work.
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And so we start with the brain and with our mind and that word words comes into play.
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So how is it that not feeling worthy effects, our ability to make money with ease?
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, great question.
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Our lack of feeling worthy.
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's first look at where that actually comes from.
[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: What happens is we get embedded with a story when we're very young.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Right? So I could go back and ask both of you.
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_02]: How did you experience money growing up?
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, what was the feeling, the energy in your home when it was a conversation about money or for bills too?
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you come from a lot of money?
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you come from a home where money wasn't, it wasn't a whole lot there or no?
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So when you think about those things, that kind of puts an imprint on you.
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And especially if there wasn't a lot of money, you know, in my home, I remember there would be tension every time it was time for my dad to sit down and pay them bills.
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't nobody talk, don't nobody like, don't we got to go to the hospital?
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's absurd.
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like those types of little things, you don't think they make a big difference but they do.
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And so at six or seven years old we all created a money story in our hands.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Our little seven year old brain had a story about money.
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Right? Story is not worked through if it's not something that you peel back the layers of as you become a story.
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But when you're still making decisions about money from the space of that seven year old child.
[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So all of us have to heal our money story.
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: We have the unpack it, you know, we have to come into, we have to come into relationship with how we think and feel about money, especially how we feel.
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Because you know, then we will always come from the standpoint of like for me was that tension. It was that money like, I don't know.
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_02]: My dad had to work 80 hours a day.
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Theme like to meet him all young.
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So until we deal with all of that and unpack it and then rewrite the story, Margaret, that is fits who we are today.
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Do that then we'll still be operating with that old money mindset and that does not serve us.
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's, it is amazing to me as we meet different people and different areas of expertise.
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything comes right back to how we were wired in those early years and how we keep those beliefs and move through life.
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Based on those same beliefs.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But it is hard to dial back from them.
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is difficult to dial back from them.
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It can be very difficult and it's not always easy to do it on your own.
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why it's important to have other people in your circle that you can work through the issues with, you know,
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: What it comes to money there are people who call themselves money therapists or financial therapists.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: They're traditional therapists and some people have a mastermind or an accountability group or coaching group.
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, all of those things I found as a as a recovering superhero and has a cape with any of the whole in many of rip in it because I would take it off.
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So as a recovering superhero, I have realized over the past decade or a little bit more of value of having that inner circle people and have honest conversations with right.
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I'm thinking of something as sensitive and as delicate as money.
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So right.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And that is that because we are of an age and growing up, it was we were seen and not heard and it was don't tell them people what goes on in our house.
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't tell you this.
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And so all of that, you know, when you talk about these masterminds you talk about it even with therapy and with coaching where people who are
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: professionals and bound to not telling your business like people are, you know, they still shy away from that.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So how do we, how do we work towards being more open and not feeling that shame or that guilt for sharing those types of things?
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's, that's a good question. I think that you have to make a decision.
[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You have to, if you're looking at your money situation right now and I want to invite everybody listening to just think for a second about your money situation.
[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And answer this question.
[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Am I really where I want to be?
[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I, I, naturally.
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, do I have, first of all, if we get about dollars and says let's just talk about freedom.
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Do I have the freedom that I design or am I bound to having to trade my hours for dollars?
[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and if that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that. Trust me like nothing wrong with that at all, but it's not what you want right.
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Then we ought to start asking ourselves somebody's, you know, challenging questions.
[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, if you don't like where you are, like, like, let's give ourselves permission to examine this thing instead of being ahead and saying and act like, you know, this isn't an issue.
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And so when you answer that question, answer it first of all without judgment.
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Really, why we don't want to talk about this and you alluded to it a second ago is because we always feel judged right.
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't need for us to create some spaces like this is what I do every day. I create spaces where it's free of judgment, right?
[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm up here people have told me the most incredible things about their money situation and I take right by an in not having a judgment around.
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be like, oh, okay, I'll be like, what?
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you got it. I want to stay at that.
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, okay, it makes so crazy stuff.
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: No.
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I'll be right. And so we had to have a space where there is no judgment, where you feel safe to come talk and be like, here's my situation.
[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's how it makes me feel.
[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I desire instead.
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thought that comes up from my childhood that keeps pulling me back into this behavior.
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And here's what I'm willing to do about it.
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And now you got somebody there and say, okay, I heard what you said this, somebody has to repeat back to you what you said.
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Out of giving you like a picture of what like a session would look like.
[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So that culture accountability partner is going to repeat back to you what you said so that you know they can make sure they heard you right?
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's start talking about, okay, what are the steps that we need to take to get you to where you said you wanted to go?
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, always always the very first step is to rewrite that old story. Right. Right.
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the story of that I learned as a kid was that money is scarce.
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You we were up and Peter the PayPal.
[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to make a lot of 15 said like all of that stuff that I now I got to rewrite that and put a new imprint.
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, all my own my soul on my spirit and say money comes to me and flows to me with ease. Right. Where are you about money?
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That free.
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we had to start to rewrite it. I'm abundant.
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I earn what I'm worth and then some things like that. So it's, you know, it's such interesting work and here's the other thing that's important.
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not just about money.
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, right.
[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's truth be told how we do money is how we do everything. So if you heal your money situation.
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You go heal other areas of the way.
[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Just by the ball.
[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that because money is is so concrete and there's this almost desperate.
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And you need money if you can break that.
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It is rest of it just things like, oh, this is easy once you get past that hurdle.
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm talking to me right now.
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling me what I need to hear. So I had a long been excuse us.
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's good. It's so true. Like that energy, right?
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I got a hustle. I got a grant. I got it out of that. I've been there.
[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I know that feeling.
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew in those challenging times when you wake up in the morning and you feel this, you immediately
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: feel this burden on you because the weight of some of our financial obligations and responsibilities can be heavy.
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's seasonal. You know, you go through seasons where things are good.
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I've been like, I've had to season where I put loose and fancy free baby.
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You look, we was rolling in it. Yes, but it's seasons where it's like, okay, how are we going to do such and such? Like can I be Oxford, right?
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And so once you take away that feeling of desperation, like you said, it's like,
[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a weight lifted. It's a freedom and it's suddenly.
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You start to get opportunities. You start to add to a new season where, oh, that just says anyone or could be such day.
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But for me, you're raised. Oh, I got this opportunity for the, you know, right, right.
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It's incredible, but you write that that that desperation that feeling, oh, I got I got I got a.
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got to learn how to let that go, right? And so that you make space for the other thing.
[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what's happening to me right now. I'm just interested in that you said that I am.
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in a, I'm in a season where I'm saying things differently. I'm talking about money differently. I'm talking about my business differently and loan. But hold right before I got on the phone with you.
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I did an interview from my pie cast.
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And just chatting it up with my guests afterwards and in the conversation turned into an opportunity.
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I think, what you look at got right.
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what.
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's when you let that that desperation go because, you know, we're condition that you work, you save, you budget, you do these things.
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And so when the income is not there and those other things fall apart and you feel desperate. You're thinking one way, one way on our need more this. I need this. I need that.
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You're blocking these opportunities.
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But when you let go of that desperate feeling when it is, it's like when you're not worried about it, that's when doors open to things that you didn't even think.
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So I want to be, I want to be in that in that season.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to get to this. These, but you mentioned freedom of time and being of an age.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: My focus has shifted so much from that the materialistic things. Now, I still want some stuff.
[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I want comfort.
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But I want freedom of my time.
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to control my 24 out.
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't it the, uh, trying thing when I think about a her to story at work just the other night. I didn't tell you about this.
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, young man, I see young man build on the steps.
[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So on 19 places, steps at work.
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I've got the shit of them slip.
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: 74 years old and, you know, we had the conversation at work and I'm like, at 74 years old, do I really want to be out?
[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: We've had guys, you know, working until they die. You know, because they didn't have any other type of life.
[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And so those are type of things I think about, you know, when I am working as like a year people, when I'm in time, I'm as long as you got we had a conversation all the time where I got to these.
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the years I got you urban aging.
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You're just in this life.
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'm on.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And I've been saying that for the last 15 years.
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to have to be now from there and feels like decide to be there's one thing.
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like you said, the mouth is in freedom.
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_00]: We just say, well, I want to build myself up.
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So they come close at a time.
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just say, you know what?
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're like going.
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm myself.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And I see it some, the, some one of the day I see it retirement is not an age.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Just, just a, just a, about my seat.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He presents.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I have that.
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a mindset.
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a number.
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: What is the number that you two feel comfortable leaving this job?
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And saying, hey, I'm going to lead in my life.
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I 100% agree with that.
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I feel like there's so many opportunities available to us that if we're not in the right way.
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to say to write circles because I don't want to sound jetty, but if you're around people who are thinking about, okay, how can I make the same amount of money on my job that I make on my job or more without going to be at that job?
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: What are some ways that I can do that?
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_02]: How can I make that happen?
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So as the quality of our life is based on the quality of the questions that we ask ourselves.
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Make sure that you're in circles where people are asking themselves those same types of questions, right?
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: More challenging questions or again, like your network is so important.
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Go, I make sure we have it in a circle where we're having those high-level conversations because I promise you, you all have this podcast right now.
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It may be a small podcast right now, but when I tell you the potential.
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But if Mark, I want to show it here, because I'm about to prophesy.
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a potential that you have with this podcast, first of all, the name that you've given it is perfect because there's so many things, so many levels right there, right?
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: The way that you can take this and monetize it.
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And if you really want to not be working, the next three, five years, that's possible with what you created right here, right?
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead to go out here and do none all deep and have a upfront investment of $25,000 to put into this and hope that you can return with this asset that you've created.
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_02]: This digital online audio asset, you can take this and build it right, but each and鸡 intentionally.
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And you can create workshops, live event experiences, retreats, a thing market.
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we talked a little bit about retreats, books, you got to do a book, you got live events, partnerships with a brand that allows you to do a lot of things.
[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And you can find with the vision and the mission of this podcast, right?
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You can create six figures within the next 18 months just with your podcast.
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So how do you, how do we, how do individuals in that situation?
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So it sounds good, I'm so motivated, I'm so ready.
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I have to get off here with you and then I have to go back and great, hey, this is all right, let's have a plane and he got to the meal.
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And so how do we, and we're of an age, so I have to get my sleep.
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, because of tired, he's so how do we manage all of those things and still keep the momentum going and keep that drive going?
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, great question. Okay, I don't know if I have all the answers, but I will say this.
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I get it like, like, all that's very real.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm never going to diminish that. You obviously both very committed to your jobs and you know, your hardworking people.
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that is what it is. You're not going to just not show up just, you know, to go do some frivolous, like I sense that from both of you.
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I just, how am I?
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. I see what I want to do. I want to sell all this stuff.
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be right out. I'll be the way I'm going to write a lot of nothing because I don't know.
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to sell.
[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to spread it all over.
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. He said, we can't do that though.
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So, and so all of that's legit, right? I hear everything. You want to sell. You want to hit the lot, oh, like all of that's real.
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So here's what I would say.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, your time belongs to you, not your employer, right? And so what I know about you, I will little I know about you.
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: One thing I do know is that you all got some PTO.
[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You can take off a day or two or three just so that you get have two or three days.
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Not the weekend and you let your weekend be what you're doing a weekend.
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm saying to y'all, plan out a day before the end of this quarter.
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Take one or two days off with Thursday and Friday or Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And make it make an experience out of it. You don't have to spend money and go in to where you can do a staycation and you all at home.
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You take a half a day. Y'all just have lunch. Go treat yourself to lunch.
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Rainstorm about, okay, let's talk about this podcast.
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's, let's, let's plan out 18 months.
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about how we are going to monetize this thing.
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Time is yours, right?
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So you got to break that time.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: That time money equation is one guess that I interviewed before.
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You break it. You break it by saying, this is what I want.
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I have a digital asset already that we created.
[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get intentional about monetizing this thing, right?
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Take those three days off that you earned.
[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Or like, I'll stop if you will take our work to it three days.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Especially if you got that time.
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And you strategize it out. It'd be helpful for you all to get with somebody who can help you with that, right?
[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody that's a, you know, objective.
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And that put that thing on a whiteboard.
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_02]: We have some good food there, some so we get snack and eat and not feel like this is hard.
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_02]: We want to make this experience enjoyable.
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Make it fun.
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, get don't do it in a, in a conference room.
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Do it someplace that they got bean bags and stuff that you can throw in.
[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So you can feel the creative energy that gets excited about this and let's the ideas.
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello, who get a y'all write them ideas down and then that third person date they come in and they say, okay, they'll record everything and give it back to you.
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So y'all know what y'all need to do this month next month and the next month.
[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You'd be all three hours.
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I want just be conservative to vote four hours a month.
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So monetizing this podcast.
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You do it intentionally.
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Estratiically.
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all can leave y'all jobs on anything.
[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to accept that challenge?
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I said, oh, y'all.
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And about the time.
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you told you about me.
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I work at a paper mill so I work at Rotating Shift.
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to interrupt him real quick and say, I'm like, now this.
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I have an issue with time and I'm working through there, but I want you to listen to what he's saying.
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Back back.
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But now what I was going to say was, you know, so the time of is not the issue for me as much as it is.
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, just having the objective when I do have the time off to say, okay, this is what we're going to work on today.
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: This is what we're going to work on.
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the the time is there.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm saying because I don't work or write about nine and five.
[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was going to say.
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm proud of because that's a shift because his schedule that shift dictates a whole lot.
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So if trying to break him out of that thinking, you're.
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And so one issue based on what he said,
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I will plan out the objectives and I'll have.
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe I have a whole program planned out for it's before it's done, but for one, who is going to make us do it.
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And who?
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going over well most about the time.
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So we got to learn some balance.
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that in part of being intentional.
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We need to gather more information on where to focus that intent because for me, this is what happens with me.
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: All of the things that you've said, like, we've talked about some of these things.
[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I've had these ideas.
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a list of things.
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll book and work shopping, you know, retreats and all these things,
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: printables and just all types of things.
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I overwhelm myself with the things because I am that desperate kick thing because I already.
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I am so I want control of my time.
[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a good thing to want control of my time because it motivates me, but then focusing on it too much.
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No, because it becomes counterproductive.
[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I got attention for you.
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I got attention because I hear story.
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a story in there and that I'm hearing you.
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And so my job as a coach is to interrupt a story.
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And, back to me and lovingly, right?
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But my question for you is what are you afraid of?
[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So I will write list and try to anticipate any issue that will come up so that when we execute said plan, it needs to go perfectly.
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Because there's no time to have to go back and rethink things.
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to get to my goal.
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And so there's a fear of failure, but not necessarily because of the regular reasons that people are afraid of failure.
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really care about what other people think.
[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I have an issue with time.
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And I constantly feel like time is running out.
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so okay, so that's good.
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for sharing that with me.
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I got another question for you.
[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_02]: What if I invited you to reframe your thought process?
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And what if I invited you to fail?
[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_02]: What?
[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Come on, let's fail, Margaret.
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's fail.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Come on, let's... Okay, you failed?
[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Good, let's try some notes and let's fail at that.
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: What if I...
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I want you to fail, Margaret?
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to fail.
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me tell you why I want you to fail.
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I want you to fail because I want you to understand that.
[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Failure is the way to get to success.
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't get to success by succeeding.
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_02]: That I...
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: That I...
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Straight there.
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, like what is that?
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That is always it.
[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Music...
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: On the way to succeeding.
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You succeed but you don't necessarily succeed.
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that the...
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You go learn a little more by rim by failing than you learn by just getting there.
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So...
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And for him, I'm so...
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So, the idea of the journey versus the destination...
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He gets that.
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't...
[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I won't... the destination.
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So, that's...
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm learning, though.
[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm learning and I'm becoming more open to...
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I used this car because I was a little car.
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I used this car because I was a little car.
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: She's in the Ferrari going down to highway.
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what she wants to be there.
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm in the camera with my crews to show them...
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: See, it doesn't take my back because I wanted to do it to scenery.
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And...
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because discussion we've had and I'm like...
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because my thing is I don't want to...
[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to know as much as I can about something.
[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So that you know...
[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I never...
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know...
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to disturb on something that I think you had to have a foundation.
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, step an omeau.
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_00]: One stone, you know...
[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Stone Papers.
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll set up.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's do this.
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And...
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Snow on some, it's like...
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm trying to...
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know...
[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's take our time and let's learn.
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get there as we need people like more need to encourage us.
[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell us the nuggets that we're going to need.
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to meet other people that...
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It's happening.
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, really...
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The mindset is really changing.
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It is...
[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Every time we meet people like yourself, it's like...
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Very...
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It was thought of this, so like you said that network.
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So we...
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And they...
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'll be on switchin'.
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: J. Workup. She said, well, I'm gonna start reaching out to people.
[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Immediately.
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I was right.
[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to.
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to.
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to.
[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to.
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to.
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: People are just going to do it.
[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_00]: We've been doing it.
[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And...
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was the initial thought.
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Indeed.
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: After a while, I was like, you know what?
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just gonna go with the flow.
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody asked something that we need.
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:34:11] And...
[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I was right. She was right.
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's six thousand.
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You guys were given us all the information that we need to take the next step.
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So...
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And we get to share it with our listeners and we get to have it there for future listeners to come.
[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And we get to share it for our kids to go through and hear and learn.
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You know...
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We get it.
[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a sad struggle with time.
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I struggle with time.
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm working.
[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You're definitely...
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the journey. Again, like everything.
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a journey.
[00:34:51] But...
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Why are you saying something?
[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll try to remember what you said.
[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It just resonated with me so much.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh...
[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You said that you...
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Initially, you wanted to just keep doing it the way you all have been doing it.
[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But here you are.
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Now you got all these different people that you've been talking to.
[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And that...
[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That Margaret is a key, you know, to anything like a breakthrough...
[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all are looking for a breakthrough.
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You want freedom.
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You want your time back.
[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to...
[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to...
[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to do all the things that you want to do without having to worry about money.
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So the breakthrough that you're looking for is not going to happen if you stay within that comfort zone.
[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You got this.
[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You're at show stuff like, like, what you're all doing now?
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: You are stretching yourself.
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Very calculated and very intentional and very, you know, slow and steady wins the race.
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's nothing wrong with that.
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But you...
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to make sure Margaret that you're constantly stretching yourself.
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So you've mentioned to me how important your time is several times in this conversation.
[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll stretch you and say, okay, what are you going to do?
[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_02]: What's we finished this conversation to take action of your time today?
[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Within the next 24 hours.
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I want you to take action towards that.
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Stretch yourself.
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Get out of that comfort zone and keep us.
[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have my time.
[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's start doing something about that today.
[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Man.
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing about it is because I overplan and overthink,
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I can just pick one of those things and finish and keep moving.
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So one of the things that one of the topics that you mentioned and some of your material that you left for us,
[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and we have children.
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So we... I'm swinging our direction quickly because I'm impressed,
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: but then disappointed with our younger generations because they have so much
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that they're fingertips and a lot of them have gotten that and they're using it.
[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But then some of them use it for such or choices, but any who.
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_01]: For our children who are there like mid and early 20, we were not the type of parents who say,
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_01]: do you have to go to college?
[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to do this.
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You said you have to have a plan.
[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: We tried to encourage them to think outside the box.
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: They struggle with that because of society and for whatever reason they're thinking you do things a certain way.
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But for those younger generations, the early 20s, once we were just starting that have this mindset of lack or how do we start letting those things in place for them?
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Or giving them those pearls of wisdom to help them because they're also their very stubborn and closed mind.
[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's some time.
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But so my thing is that they see us doing it, maybe they are, you know, that all encouraged them.
[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But how do we get that younger generation more open when it comes to money?
[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man. That's a big one.
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I think there are several ways you can do it.
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, at this age, they're the 20s and if your kids are anything like my son, like he thinks he knows everything.
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, I'm becoming smaller and smaller and it's, you know, real blub influence.
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's a great kid and everything but I've been saying to him,
[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_02]: he's done, let's sit down and have a conversation about your money because he's working now and doing all the things.
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And I just want to make sure that he and I sit down and have an intentional conversation.
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_02]: We've had conversations over the years and he's really good with his money.
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_02]: But I want to start talking now about the next level.
[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: What is the next level of the like?
[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's think one of the things that I'm going to do with my son.
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He's away college right now.
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So next time he's home, it's like,
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_02]: ask him, what are the things that you want to do?
[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Once you graduate from college, he's got one more semester.
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you want to get a condo.
[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to live out in LA.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to do this.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to do that.
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's hasixxon.
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you gotten the numbers around?
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I do you know what that's going on?
[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, okay.
[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think once we, you know, every kid is different.
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So you had to find out what works for your children.
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think at the end of the day, once we get them to know what the numbers are,
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm much apart.
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I was monthly.
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Possible to live in the city where I want to live.
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I have I done my budget for it to know.
[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I want to have some money to have fun.
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to I got to keep gas in my car.
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I got to do this.
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's let them look in black and white.
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But those numbers are less added up.
[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_02]: How much yourself on bill?
[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's add it up.
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's they start seeing how much everything really truly costs.
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to hit different like that month.
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You go hit different and then it's up to us though as parents.
[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is what I truly believe.
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's up to us as parents to let them know that anything is possible for them.
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It might be it's if they'd like that they want to be influencers and youtubers.
[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I go to speak at schools all the time.
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of kids want to be youtubers.
[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you want to do.
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You can do it.
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But understand that there's going to be an upfront sacrifice.
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have to invest time and get good at whatever that thing is that you want to do.
[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: The crack.
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Where else is your oyster?
[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So I to get them out of the lack in the scarcity.
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_02]: We got to up level our conversations with them.
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: We got to let them know that there are no boundaries.
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: No limits on what you can do.
[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You will start a bit, virtual business.
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to do this, do that.
[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you not heard nobody?
[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And we have to make sure our words, the words that we use.
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Margaret.
[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Make it sure I heard.
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I got a raw pita to pay Paul all my life grown up.
[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Money don't grow on trees.
[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me go with what I heard.
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But it I might and they don't mean no harm.
[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_02]: We as parents don't mean no harm.
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But that leaves an imprint and goes back to the story.
[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We got to make sure the words that we're using in our house holes is that money flows
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_02]: To me freely and easily.
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Where are you about money?
[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I got a whole manifesto, money manifesto.
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, y'all can share with your listeners totally free.
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just how we going use our words when it comes to money.
[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_02]: How are we going to do that?
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's how you get kids to think differently about money.
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That's and there again I go back to time.
[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I just wish I had a pad just a little bit of the knowledge that I have now when I was in my early 20s.
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I tell him all the time you know if I had half the thinking the types of thoughts now that I did when we got married.
[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know, we'd be halfway around the world by now.
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And he just looked I said or either I would.
[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you and you thought it would be together but it did young.
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So you still got time to do all of that stuff.
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Then that's that's we had kids young and I would say all the time.
[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_01]: 46 and 45 will be free.
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't yet know.
[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's so old.
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, the one reaction can.
[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: One of us may that I remember hearing for a long time this, you know, and.
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_00]: TV show dot to feel.
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll watch him one day and he said, you can't fix so many problems with money.
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And I understand it more so now because see how they have a different mind.
[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like you can give people a million dollars if they don't have a mind set to hold on to it.
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll lose it within whatever amount of time.
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_00]: For our listeners, can you explain the, you know, like what I said about the.
[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Not fixing money problems with money.
[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And what would be the, I guess, to downsize for people who.
[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Believe that you know, like if I just get the right lot of them, it'll take him on the problems off.
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I just, but I see it earlier.
[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you stated is so brilliant.
[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: The issue is is that an an statistic show most of the people who hit big on the lottery.
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_02]: The millions and millions of dollars they get, but in just a few years.
[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't then wind up broke again.
[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And the issue is is that that money story, right?
[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_02]: There's still operating from what that six or seven year old child saw and felt when the topic of money came around.
[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So here you are a multi millionaires suddenly, but you still have not unpacked the old money story and created a new one.
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why every lottery winners needs to get money coaching not a financial advisor, right?
[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, coach first.
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_02]: There go to the financial advisor.
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, if you don't rewrite a new money story, you will be back to where you started from blank period.
[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And here's the other thing and I'll, so that's more about esoteric.
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And let's get more concrete.
[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But you got to have boundaries.
[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.
[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Most people lack discipline and they lack boundaries.
[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, boundaries meaning somebody come to you as from money.
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a no for me.
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I've already, you know, there's scripts.
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_02]: There's language that you can use so that you just don't sound mean and harsh, right?
[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But you don't have to, especially if you win a lottery.
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to give everybody everything, right?
[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_02]: A boundary could be a certain dollar amount that you put towards giving to others once a month.
[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And once that amount is spent, I'm so sorry.
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I have already given at the limit that I'd have designated for this month.
[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You're there.
[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Next time.
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_01]: There are stories that you got to take care of each other and in families at first.
[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And we take care of our own and start to plant stuff like that when you feel obligated.
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know what?
[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I do believe that we should take care of family first.
[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I firmly believe that.
[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That's my belief.
[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm that.
[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_01]: However, there are other ways that we can take care of it.
[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess I mean in terms of you know, if we win the lottery,
[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have problem being mean and hurt feelings.
[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we don't we haven't won the lottery.
[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have problem with being mean and hurt feelings.
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm cool with it.
[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But some people that idea that if I get something then it's my responsibility to take care of everyone.
[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's that has bitten us in the behind before that trying to fix things and help them.
[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I hope everyone without really thinking of how that help is impacting us as a core unit.
[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So good like that's so deep that that really can go really deep into a conversation.
[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I want to write that down because I could really unpack that on my podcast.
[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: What that is is there's that's a fear based way of thinking, you know,
[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_02]: we when we feel like we have to take care of everybody or we have this obligation.
[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's a story that comes some story that comes from something that happened where we.
[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: We were the ones that were put in charge of something and we had to pay care of people and you know,
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_02]: people who took care of their younger siblings and we're giving given adult responsibilities at a very young age
[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and we carried that into our adulthood.
[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_02]: That comes from something that needs to be explored and unpacked.
[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is a habit that people have.
[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That you want to change, but you're finding it hard to that's where you get there being coaching right right.
[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you unpack that especially if it doesn't make you feel good.
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_02]: If it feels burdened someone you do it.
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Come on, this is twilight.
[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, we got to freak out of these old habits that really don't serve us.
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And that is why when I say I don't have problems saying no or being mean or because I realize that if I'm doing something for someone and I feel bad about doing it or I'm upset about doing it.
[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not benefiting. I'm not helping them.
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, the tangible help maybe but in the end, I'm going to start to feel there way when I hear your name or what nice.
[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't if I feel like if there's an event, if there's something meet whatever it is, I'll have problems saying no because if I say yes against my wheel.
[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it will come back and it will hurt both of us. Right. That's an excellent point. You just set somebody free with that and it drives home this idea that I'm hoping everyone will consider.
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is that as families we have to be the sit down and have these type of conversations.
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, media, families, you know, we we really need to be able to sit down over a meal, over whatever car game or something when we can.
[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Had these conversations communicate.
[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Her boundaries would our expectations. Let's talk about setting up a trust for our children. Let's talk about how we go and build generational well. So that our kids won't have to struggle and hustle and grind.
[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: We want to leave a legacy for our nieces and nephews and God babies. If you don't have kids, the people that you love what we're doing should be about legacy shouldn't just be about today.
[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Right. Right.
[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: My great kids one day, right. Would it be nice if if your grandkids because of the fact that you're setting up a trust?
[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Have to worry about how they're going to pay for college. If that's what they decide to do.
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_02]: He'd nice if your grandkids had a trust set up so that once they're 25, they can go and invest in their their first property or that peace of land.
[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Also well for our kids, but we can't do that if we're not having these conversations.
[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_02]: We had it. We're not including the kids even at young ages and right.
[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_02]: We're not just about money and how we're going to spend in our family budget and what we're going to say yes to and what we're going to say no to and why because we're saving and planning for the future.
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's have these conversations out here and you're going to use it up.
[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That's that needs to happen to start to remove that shame in that guilt because as long as shame and guilt are there.
[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Those negative feelings are there. You're not going to be open for those opportunities that are trying to get to you.
[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to be able to align to those things because you're steep in that negative part.
[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we talk about them and we make jokes about them throughout the years but you know there's a certain group of people that I'm sure they're everywhere.
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we always picked about them being, you know, a bunch of people living in the house or a bunch of people living in the car.
[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the group that can not make stat there.
[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You may have a relative to that stumbling air from there on the country and then we're going to teach you how to do this.
[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Go teach how to write it.
[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_00]: What's a weird rule on the way over here, you get this house and just those type of practices alone in itself is creating a generational transformation.
[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So you transfer a transforming lives from from every other generation that comes over you give them to us they hear.
[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm only learned this trade learned this and learned this and that's people are always talking about well how they come over in.
[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, this money how they has their doing things the way that they've had their force to.
[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They've been in fifth for all of us just right.
[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just somebody else thing.
[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So true people don't like to think of things like that because it's not sexy everybody wants to have you know this type of house and it and in a group economics I think is something that should be revisited it may not be for everybody.
[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just look at our own families like when we had intergenerational families under the same.
[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Right for many.
[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_02]: We were saved money.
[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We were able to make sure grandma and grandpa have their alive and you know, you know, im viable active they can help raise these children.
[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But children things we could all benefit from.
[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Presence of each other and learning grow and I mean it has so many benefits and just getting back to that.
[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's powerful.
[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And from a financial standpoint, but also from.
[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: With kids just that the rearing of children and how different kids are that lack of respect for your elders because you're not around them or because.
[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that generational difference in parenting is created riffs with families and things so just the.
[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Ability to have that type of connecting also.
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: There's value in that.
[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I say all of that but I don't want to live with my.
[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I love her.
[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_02]: See we.
[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_02]: As we plan.
[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And the let me just say the right word.
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And we can have a situation where grandma may not live in the same house, but by next door or maybe if you know what your land is right.
[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and land that's a little bit farther over here on the other side, you know what I'm saying.
[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the ideal of grandma's tutors down.
[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you know,
[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, a couple of acres and then, you know, you got this acre we got this acre and this family man has a acre.
[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, chip in the peaks is only using land to build our homes and things like that.
[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And like you said, the mind said, hey, well, a lot of people because we've been taught to be selfish about our money.
[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk to only think about ourselves and this is what I'm going to do for my family.
[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and it's hard to change that mindset with some people.
[00:55:30] Right.
[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And we have living may not be for everybody.
[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't own a lot about it, but I do know when my parents get to where they can't live in their home.
[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_02]: My intention is to make sure they come and live with us.
[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And my husband already knows that so that's just my decision in my choice.
[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But I just think, you know, sometimes some of the some of the traditional.
[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Irgonial.
[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_02]: We should revisit especially in these times we live in today.
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying, I'm so old.
[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_02]: You can not do that.
[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So, but that's conversation right there too.
[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: That's all.
[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_01]: In the meanwhile in my brain, I'm trying to figure out land.
[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And where we going run away to because you know,
[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_01]: but anyways, let me real myself back on the air.
[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So we have we've enjoyed this so much, but I guess we have to share you with our listener stuff.
[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_01]: If our listeners want to learn more, where can they find you online?
[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And you tell us a little bit more about your book because you didn't brag quite enough.
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And you podcast and yes.
[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So the book I happen to have it right here is all right.
[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And Margaret, please make sure I get to address.
[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to send you a heart copy of that.
[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I will do that.
[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a super short book.
[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You can literally look at me.
[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It's only like a hundred sun pages.
[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so tiny.
[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You can read this once right east Saturday afternoon if you ain't going over.
[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's age simple steps that you can take right now that I'll put you on the path to abundance and a little bit of
[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of it is around mindset.
[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Simple steps that I guarantee if you take those steps, your financial life will look a lot different.
[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd say even it's as soon as 60 or 90 days.
[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's an astratietic about it.
[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll make sure I get that to you people want to buy the book.
[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_02]: They can go to my website overflow now dot com overflow out dot com.
[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I do coaching, I train money coaches.
[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So I want people to be able to go out into the world and do some of the same work that I'm doing, teaching about abundance and
[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Kingdom kingdom wealth.
[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I like to call it where you're leaving.
[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So all of that said my website overflow now dot com.
[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I coach our train.
[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I do workshops and then my my podcasts which see behind me is systemic.
[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's everywhere you get listen to podcasts.
[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And we talk about how women can fix their money situation and build their own thriving economy so that they can live in the overflow.
[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love to create content community and offer coaching and that's my jam and that's what my life is about.
[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm building this this empire because I feel like just like I see y'all there's a gold mine inside of you.
[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm mining the gold that's in me.
[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting all my gifts in there and I'm monetizing it out in this world.
[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just encourage you to specifically as you have such jam here not a lot of people.
[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_02]: People talk about starting a podcast but y'all are some of the few that's actually done it and I can see that it can be amazing.
[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And so again encourage you, but I also encourage your listeners.
[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I go this within you.
[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Give it as a gift to the world, monetize it and when you begin to do that money will flow to you with ease and grace and it will flow to you from surprising places.
[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And you will never worry about money and you will live in the overflow.
[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it. I love it.
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